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of Joint Management, but submitted no counter-proposals which

could in any sense be regarded as a serious scheme for working

the two sections. In October last I visited Peking myself

and had two very long conversations with His Excellency Liang

Shi-yi, Director General of Railways. I found him radically

opposed to anything in the nature of Joint Management, and

though (as it appeared to me) he was unable to reply to my

arguments, I learnt more clearly than before the nature of his

objections. His counter-proposals amounted practically to

independent working with arrangements for through booking and

hire of stock, and he voluntarily and without any suggestion

on my part suggested that in calculating the rates to be charged

by each section under that scheme, it would be clearly admissible

for the Hongkong section to impose a higher rate than

the Chinese section because of the much more difficult and

costly nature of the construction of our section. On my return

to Hongkong I found that the Director General of the Chinese

Section who had been nominated as the Negotiator for a Working

Agreement by the Chinese Government had resigned, in

consequence of the fact (which he freely admits) that he considered

our proposals reasonable and proper and did not share

the view of his own Government.

... was nominated as his successor.

After some delay Mr. Chao

Being very desirous of meeting the wishes of the

Chinese Government in every way, I directed Messrs. Clementi and Lindsey (who represented this Government) to postpone the question of Joint Management and proceeded to a discussion

on the question of rates, mutual provision of Rolling Stock and

such other matters which demand solution before the line opens in August.

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  1. Generally speaking the arguments which I have advanced as the basis of a Working Agreement are as follows:- That the line is one entity and should be regarded as a business proposition, in which it is to the interest of both parties to

realise

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##?of Joint Management, but submitted no counter-proposals whichcould in any sense be regarded as a serious scheme for workingthe two sections. In October last I visited Peking myselfand had two very long conversations with His Excellency LiangShi-yi, Director General of Railways. I found him radicallyopposed to anything in the nature of Joint Management, andthough (as it appeared to me) he was unable to reply to myarguments, I learnt more clearly than before the nature of hisobjections. His counter-proposals amounted practically toindependent working with arrangements for through booking andhire of stock, and he voluntarily and without any suggestionon my part suggested that in calculating the rates to be chargedby each section under that scheme, it would be clearly admissiblefor the Hongkong section to impose a higher rate thanthe Chinese section because of the much more difficult andcostly nature of the construction of our section. On my returnto Hongkong I found that the Director General of the ChineseSection who had been nominated as the Negotiator for a WorkingAgreement by the Chinese Government had resigned, inconsequence of the fact (which he freely admits) that he consideredour proposals reasonable and proper and did not sharethe view of his own Government.... was nominated as his successor.After some delay Mr. ChaoBeing very desirous of meeting the wishes of theChinese Government in every way, I directed Messrs. Clementi and Lindsey (who represented this Government) to postpone the question of Joint Management and proceeded to a discussionon the question of rates, mutual provision of Rolling Stock andsuch other matters which demand solution before the line opens in August.##Generally speaking the arguments which I have advanced as the basis of a Working Agreement are as follows:- That the line is one entity and should be regarded as a business proposition, in which it is to the interest of both parties torealise
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?of Joint Management, but submitted no counter-proposals whichcould in any sense be regarded as a serious scheme for workingthe two sections. In October last I visited Peking myselfand had two very long conversations with His Excellency LiangShi-yi, Director General of Railways. I found him radicallyopposed to anything in the nature of Joint Management, andthough (as it appeared to me) he was unable to reply to myarguments, I learnt more clearly than before the nature of hisobjections. Ilia counter proposals amounted practically toindependent working with arrangements for through booking andhire of stock, and he voluntarily and without any suggestionon my part suggested that in calculating the rates to be chargedby each section under that scheme, it would be clearly admis-siblefor the Hongkong section to impose a higher rate thanthe Chinese section because of the much more difficult andcostly nature of the construction of our section. On my re-turnto Hongkong I found that the Director General of the Chi-neseSection who had been nominated as the Negotiator for a WorkingAgreement by the Chinese Government had resigned, inconsequence of the fact (which he freely admits) that he con-sideredour proposals reasonable and proper and did not sharethe view of his own Government. was nominated as his successor.After some delay Mr. ChaoBeing very desirous of meeting the wishes of theChinese Government in every way, I directed Messrs. Clementi and Lindsey (who represented this Government) to postpone the question of Joint Management and proceeded to a discussion the question of rates, mutual provision of Rolling Stock andsuth other/matters which demand solution before the line opens inother ma August.of5.Generally speaking the arguments which I have ad- vanced as the basis of a Working Agreement are as follows:- That the line is one entity and should be regarded as a business proposition, in which it is to the interest of both parties torealise
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of Joint Management, but submitted no counter-proposals which

could in any sense be regarded as a serious scheme for working

the two sections. In October last I visited Peking myself

and had two very long conversations with His Excellency Liang

Shi-yi, Director General of Railways. I found him radically

opposed to anything in the nature of Joint Management, and

though (as it appeared to me) he was unable to reply to my

arguments, I learnt more clearly than before the nature of his

objections. Ilia counter proposals amounted practically to

independent working with arrangements for through booking and

hire of stock, and he voluntarily and without any suggestion

on my part suggested that in calculating the rates to be charged

by each section under that scheme, it would be clearly admis-

sible for the Hongkong section to impose a higher rate than

the Chinese section because of the much more difficult and

costly nature of the construction of our section. On my re-

turn to Hongkong I found that the Director General of the Chi-

nese Section who had been nominated as the Negotiator for a

Working Agreement by the Chinese Government had resigned, in

consequence of the fact (which he freely admits) that he con-

sidered our proposals reasonable and proper and did not share

the view of his own Government.

was nominated as his successor.

After some delay Mr. Chao

Being very desirous of meeting the wishes of the

Chinese Government in every way, I directed Messrs. Clementi and Lindsey (who represented this Government) to postpone the question of Joint Management and proceeded to a discussion

the question of rates, mutual provision of Rolling Stock and

suth other/matters which demand solution before the line opens in other ma August.

of

5. Generally speaking the arguments which I have ad- vanced as the basis of a Working Agreement are as follows:- That the line is one entity and should be regarded as a business proposition, in which it is to the interest of both parties to

realise

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